Thread:CantoneseDragon/@comment-31790865-20180715065352/@comment-33706373-20180820135400

FLAH!2.0 wrote: Kemalism supports cultural colonization of Turkey while preserving it as an independent nation. For us Westerners and Europeans westernization of Turkey may sound nice, but it doesn't sound good for a Turk who actually loves his nation. Kemalists declare Western culture (in its purely secular incarnation) superior to Turkish-Arab Ottoman culture which is insulting as itself (expecially for a nation that used only some time ago to be one of the grandest empires of the world) and their goal is to basically eradicate Ottoman culture and replace it with Western one. If someone would want to do the same to Greece or Germany enforcing Turkish culture on them and declaring their culture inferior I don't think their nationalists would like that. And they didn't. Of course kemalism also wants to preserve Turkey's political independence, but if at the same Turkey is no more Turkish what is the worth of it? If there would be a movement that wants to islamize Greece/Europe but preserve its political independence, would you support it? I wouldn't. Man I agree with you completely

It’s not like wanting a new Ottoman Empire, that extreme thought plus nostalgia always led to some degenerate shit

What I think is: Ottoman values plus a modern Turkish society (maybe Islamic Republic like Iran) valuing its real culture and traditions toward a non cucked Western view of nationalism