Thread:Orange Squirtle*/@comment-35001576-20190702095636/@comment-25977412-20190706061619

do you think the same comment section will be free of conspiratorial bullshit made up by a pro-altaic user

''"These accounts: ChineseHOME1, Александр Хирешев, 王小三, THAI Patriot, 靖国神社 PRO ABE, 이도원 are trolls. I have seen a lot of accounts similar to these in the comment section of this video. They seem to try to divide and confuse people. First, they try to distance Altaic from Japanese/Korean. Second, they try to attack the Turkish. Third, they try to replace Altaic with Austronesian and SEA but this is just a mask to cover their real identities. Guess who they are ? Surprise ! They are overseas Vietnamese ! They live in Austria, Germany, USA. What they want is pulling Japanese close to Vietnamese, but pretend to support Austronesian to hide their identity. To confuse people even more, they pretend to be Japanese, Korean, Mongols, Chinese nationalists to attack the Turks whenever there are Turks writing that Turkish are related to Korean, related to Japanese, related to Mongols. Nobody would ever think of Vietnamese, an irrelevant people, doing such a thing. Yes, they have reason to do that. Japan is a roll model to them and a lot of peoples in Asia. By pulling Japan close to Vietnam, a dirt-poor country, they think they could help secure their country from poverty and underdevelopment. I write an article about this. Search for my blog "Why are some Japanese nationalists anti-Turkish and supportive of the Armenian Genocide ?", you will find it."'' -ko hati

LMFAO IMAGINING THAT "dA vIEtZ diD it an ShieT!1!" AND CALL PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY HAS AN OPPOSITION TO A THEORY WHICH HAS BEEN LARGELY DISCREDITED BY MANY LINGUISTS AS "TROLLS", YES, CALL THEM OUT AS TROLLS, LIKE FLAT EARTHERS!!!!

same person writes: "It's clear that Turkic languages, Japanese, Korean have the same origin. Grammatically and lexically, they are similar, thus get classified into Altaic family"

i call bullshit on this

However Janhunen is sceptical about an affiliation of Japanese to Altaic, while András Róna-Tas remarked that a relationship between Altaic and Japanese, if it ever existed, must be more remote than the relationship of any two of the Indo-European languages. One stated that "the genetic relationship between Korean and Japanese, if it in fact exists, is probably more complex and distant than we can imagine on the basis of our present state of knowledge".

and if they are similar (i cannot deny that they are) it's most likely a Sprachbund: a set of languages with similarities due to convergence through intensive borrowing and long contact, rather than common origin.