Thread:جعفر أمل/@comment-31674709-20180710190717/@comment-34650195-20180723175521

Johnny-Swing wrote: جعفر أمل wrote: It’s not a false association because the USA always used it as a tool against its political opponents. And remember that during the 90s Iran became a regional power in he Middle East, after kicking Saddam, Iran began to support resistance against american imperialism in the Middle East, it was the time were Iran began to get strong and internationally recognized by its enemies as a respectable rival. In USA they even thought that the revolution would later fail and the iranian people would make a new one against Khomeini but they were a hell wrong. So here I debunked two of your statements, the 90s was yes an appropriate moment to make anti iranian and anti shia propaganda due to the fact that both of these were expanding and gaining relevance, take Hezbollah as an example they began to kick Israel ass during that time. And you sure didn’t read about, he was also an animator but he developed together with others of course the main characteristics of Jafar he was 5e influencer there, he made the occupation of Also a developer too, read more please. Anti clerical propaganda means to be against the revolution of Iran that gave power to a cleric can’t you understand? The evidence is there, the mock is there, everything has a space and a sense, it’s up to you to see it or continuing refusing It's a false association because you're claiming that since the U.S. made propaganda cartoons, therefore Aladdin will be propaganda, which is a logical falacy.

Iran did not kick Iraq, the truth is that both suffered huge casualties and both claimed victories. Truth is, the U.S. in the 90s screwed up with Iraq and if Iran was trully resisting American Imperialism they would stand with Iraq in the Gulf War, which didn't happen.

The revolution may have failed, but it wouldn't be likely back in the 70s, in the end Khomeini won.

Shias were expanding and gaining relevance as a religious group? How so? Oh wait, Hezbollah? What did the Hezbollah did in the 1990s exactly to kick Israel?

In fact, why wasn't the big deal in the 1990s Iran and Hezbollah other than an economic crisis, the Gulf War, the fall of the USSR other than Iran?

And even if both of that would support your statement, how would it prove that Aladdin was propaganda? Why would they bother put subliminal messages? Aladdin sucked at being propaganda because it wasn't propaganda.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103639/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_wr#writers/

Most of the story developers and animators weren't Iranian at all.

Here, he is mentioned only once as a layout supervisor. He was also in the development of other Disney movies as Pocahontas and Hercules.

You are yet to give evidence that Aladddin was propaganda, and i'm talking about evidence that it was admitted to be propaganda itself and/or that of Saudi and C.I.A. involvement.

Talk 15:38, July 23, 2018 (UTC) >In fact, why wasn't the big deal in the 1990s Iran and Hezbollah other than an economic crisis, the Gulf War, the fall of the USSR other than Iran?

Maybe because Hirschfeld wanted to draw attention to Iran?

>Why would they bother put subliminal messages? Aladdin sucked at being propaganda because it wasn't propaganda.

Well, the person who put the propaganda there probably didn't understand it will not work as he wasn't a propaganda master. We can also consider that he did draw inspiration from events in Iran but didn't plan it was a propaganda to begin with. They needed some basis or plot so he founded them on the events of his lifetime. Tolkien for example portrayed his saga as a battle between industrializing civilization and traditional and natural Catholic society, yet we don't view his work as Greenpeace propaganda or something.