Talk:Tibetball/@comment-27111245-20180519142225/@comment-33706373-20180917172541

>It's impossible for any of the regions to seceed democratically as the government would never allow it, and they aren't governed by ethnic Tibetans.

Oh rly? I don't think so.

Tibet is for sure governed by ethnic Tibetans, but of course they share the power with ethnic Han like the general secretaries of the party.

Regardless of this, Tibet has no democratic tradition, and it is an illusion to think that Tibetans who oppose China want democracy, most of them are descendants of feudal lords, or want to hand power over to the Dalai Lama and excommunicate the Lamas that destroyed the ancient feudal order of the region.

While there is still a lot to be changed and improved in the region, this is not the way.

>With the first option out of the way, Turkestan would go for war, but Tibetans would never do that, they are very peaceful.

Tibetans can be anything but historically peaceful. Besides the Tibetan society be historically violent someway, since treat those considered as inferior (not from other races, own Tibetans who were inferior in the feudal hierarchy) with much torture and violence was a common thing.

Tibet was also involved in plety of wars during its history, here examples, Tibetans have always had a reputation for warring against those they dislike.

And in principle while the Uyghurs didn't express a serious armed struggle against the Chinese government, the Dalai Lama loyalists in Tibet fought for for almost one decade during the Cold War until the USA and China came to an agreement in the 1970s and CIA stopped supporting the Tibetan guerrillas.

To counter this lie that Tibetans are peaceful, the Panchen Lama during the 1940s united an army backed by China to take revenge against the Dalai Lama who had expelled him and his followers from Tibet for being "reactionary and anti feudal reformists" (yes if you don't know the invasion of Tibet was asked by Tibetans themselves to both ROC and PRC).

>The "Free Tibet" movement only has a large following outside of Tibet, Tibetans enjoy lots of priveleges from the government for being ethnic minorities.

That is true mainly because the Dalai Lama is still seen as the feudal lord who refused led Tibet to a new prosper age. That doesn't means all Tibetans are happy there though, it's difficult to swallow this context even being a proud one, but far from be the hell the Western media protrays it.

>I would honestlylike a USSR-esque peaceful secession from all of the autonomous regions from China.

It used to be that way during part of ROC times, but today the government focuses more on centralizing everything, which is good on the one hand and bad on the other. I greatly admire the current model of the Russian Federation and I think it could be applied in China the right proportions.