Thread:Tenaciosu-san/@comment-31540315-20180728144244/@comment-35688108-20180730203609

Tenaciosu-san wrote: Randomname140 wrote: Keep blindly defending Communism, an ideology that killed 100 Mil. people worldwide. Hello, my friend. Are you dumb or what? How can an ideology based on social justice kill people?

Good luck with listening to the mass media which are telling you that communism is an evil ideology that wants to take over and destroy the world. The media are owned by capitalists, so good luck with telling me that you have objective evidence for your statement that "communism killed 100 mil. people oooooooooh.

But if you don't believe me, you have a preferable alternative: capitalism. Interesting, how many people did capitalism kill?

Well, first of all, read this nice article about the leader of democracy, liberty and resistance against the barbarious communists: http://www.sott.net/article/273517-Study-US-regime-has-killed-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two

20-30 million people, that's right. Surprising? I'm not done yet. Have you ever about the massacre of communist Papuans by Indonesia? I think not. The Indonesian Armed Forces killed between 100,000-400,000 communists (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papua_conflict).

Each of the puppet dictators backed by the West in past ~60 years, have tens to hundreds of thousands of directly killed people in their name at the minimum. South America, Africa. Even the first dictator of South Korea (yes, the free one) had 'fixed' 3 million people. Killed, just outright. Have you heard about that? No...

The headcount tally of African warlords which multinational corporations or their governments backed, the 'vanished' people in South America under western and corporate backed dictatorships themselves would come up to a shocking count, leave aside those who died due to bad conditions similar to Great Depression in US - except these conditions under such capitalist dictatorships were a constant.

The list, deeds and characters of some of African dictators backed by capitalism (aka west, in this context) are so crazy that it defies description - there were even cannibals among them.

Friendly dictators

None of the people killed by these is considered to have been killed by capitalism.

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Right at this moment, people with jobs in US are dying because they are not able to get Healthcare due to privatized healthcare system and the massive expenses it brings.

Barbara Ehrenreich: America’s Blue-Collar White People Are Dying at an Astounding Rate

And well, what happens when you need healthcare but you are being denied because you have no insurance?

In US, hospitals are obliged to take care of you if you are in a state of emergency. If you don’t need emergency care, they can deny medical treatment. And this is how things are handled - those without insurance are denied life saving medical care until their situation develops into an emergency. And in most cases of emergency, there is little to do for the patient but alleviate the pain of the life-threatening condition they have, its too late anyway. People die like that. It is the legal way of hospitals to avoid treating someone until they have to, and then get out of it with minimum expense. At the cost of human life. Because shareholders need every bit of dividend they can get in any financial quarter, therefore no profits must be lost in treating someone who can’t pay…

Have you seen anyone counting any of these people as 'having been killed by Capitalism'?

No.

I'd put the number capitalism killed in the past century easily around ~100 million.

Also that is by totally ignoring the colonial enterprises during 19th century, ranging from Belgian King Leopold's murderous enterprise into Congo to ~200 year-reigning British East India Company's affairs, where they created famines and then profited from them, to Dutch slave trading companies during Baroque era - all of these were properly capitalist companies with shareholders, management, accountants, executives and everything. A lot of the companies which participated in these affairs, the exploitation, profiting from deaths of people, suffering, misery, are still here today, a decent number of them with their names and wealth intact.

Yes, communism is barbarious. But as you can see, capitalism never killed anyone. Never (just forget the 100 million). Ooooh yes keep supporting Communism!!! Papa Marx likes it!

I'm not fully reading this comment because I know how stupid it is. And no, I don't trust the media. Who does that anyway?

Also: If you would still live in Communism, you wouldn't have that computer you are typing on (nor a laptop, smartphone or whatever you're typing on).