Thread:Azin62/@comment-28388850-20170813170003/@comment-36213611-20180808163526

If you had actually read my entire reply, you would see the part i talked specifically about this. I precisely argued about this issue, and i will repeat it:

“the currently concept of being arab is being part of a whole cultural nation of the region, and this does not erase at any time what some of them were in the past.“

If you keep negating this or refusing to understand such a concept, i am sorry but this discussion is completely irrelevant. The palestinians always were there, they had different cultural identities in those different times.

Nop, my argument about celt identity does not proves zionist cause in any reason, simply because in no moment i condemned whatever happened with celtic identity in those places. The europeans who live in that land still have the rights over it, just like the palestinians over theirs, because they are both still the same people.

So you are more of a snowflake? Being called arrogant and ignorant for a matter of observation based on your own actions, for you is considered an insult?

Excuse me, but did you just literally implied that jews were drove out of palestine by the arabs? Yet you deny the fact you are an ignorant. First, canaanites never were jewish, before arab conquest of the region there were not even the original canaanite culture anymore, some canaanites were hellenized like the ones in part of lebanon and palestine, they were still the same people but with different religions and culture. Canaanites were mostly pagans while jews were monotheists, in no way the jews were the same people of the descendants of nowadays palestinians, they were two different semitic groups.

Well to start with the other matter, the jews were firstly expelled by romans that forced a large part of the jews to leave the region, but still considerable population remained living there. According to serious studies, jews probably constituted the majority of the population in some parts of palestine until the 4th century, these parts of palestine according to historians correspond to twelve towns on the coast, in the negev, some in the east of the jordan, and thirty one villages around the galilee and the jordan valley, the rest continued being populated by those canaanites descendants.

But things later changed, the jews revolted twice against their christian rulers in palestine during part of byzantine times. However during the 5th century, the western roman empire had a collapse that led to other people migration into palestine from different parts of the palestine, so those old canaanites were again occupying most part of palestine, that in the past had considerable part of its territory occupied by jews who settled there and created monarchies, but they were not natives. Ok following this process, there was the development of a non jewish majority again and the original jews numbered around 10 to 15% of the population.

So, its more than obvious that when the arabs came to the region they beside making no demographic changes, did not expelled or removed the jews from that region, the jews were actually happy with the advance of islam, that was because they were allowed to live in parts of palestine again. The original inhabitants whose heritage come from the old canaanites continued being the majority, the difference was that they adopted islam as religion (minority continued being christian) and they all lived in an arab society now. It was only during that time that jewish population had an increase, but if we count the entire population of the region since ancient times, the palestinians have always been there and they were by no means the jews who came later.

When we speak about peace, i will never forget about what was written in the irgc barracks that i served, it was: "if you want peace, prepare yourself for war". What israel is doing in palestine is a complete criminal violation, the only way we can have some peace there is by removing such an evil creation.

As i already told you, i am a specialist in this area, i deeply studied it. I will never lie or imply fallacies just to win a debate, like you implied. Why would i do that if i know the facts.

Well at the end this reply just proved the observation i made before, you are not here for knowledge, you are just here because again you seems to be the average boi who cannot accept to be defeated in a debate. You are probably with storms or insecurities in your ideological and intellectual exercise, so you feel the need to prove in some way that you are prepared, even if you are not.