Thread:XxBertholdtxX/@comment-34650195-20180905062221/@comment-32883368-20180906122301

FLAH!2.0 wrote: >Do you really want to live under another one’s rule instead of being free

Free from what? My and my nation's dignity? Monarchy is a question of honour.

>>He didnt simply bring secularism,he oppressed Turks for their believe,he attacked Turkish culture,and banned women who were wearing religious cultural dress from educatinng,He was a man who hated his nation all but openul.

My original text:

"He didn't simply bring secularism, he opressed the majority of Turks for their beliefs, he attacked Turkish culture and he banned women who were wearing religious-cultural dress from educating. He was a man who hated his nation all but openly."

Why did you cange it?

Okay, to the answers.

>Why a Turk should attack his one culture

Yes, why? That's the point I'm making.

>he let people believe everything they want and

Yes he let anyone believe what he wants but he made restrictions for people for their beliefs and customs.

''>Excuse me???!?!!! Which religious dress are you talking about?''

Fez for men and headscarfs for women.

>There werent even sharia in Ottomans

That is not an argument for banning a religious dress widely popular among the people of a widely popular national religion.

>women were moștly half naked.

https://muhajabat.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/ottoman.jpg

>Wanna become a camel riding wahhabi?

Wahhabi are a later movement plox

The fact that there are negative stereotypes about Arabs changes nothing. Arabs were for a long time amongst most civilized nations on Erath, so that just makes no sense. Plus it far more logical to adapt culture of a nation you conquered, you share same religion with and that started that religion than what Ataturk did. Change my mind.

This comment from you actually shows well the problem of Turkey. Kemalists can see only two Turkeys - one is radically secular western model and other is wahhabi caliphate. That is why people seek an alternative to both and are driven to support people like Erdogan. A good example of what Ataturk probably should have done is Ba'athist model. It is secular yet not anti-religious.

>Turkey was so beautiful until 2002.Then he came and f****d the whole country.

https://tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp-per-capita

>Which pârț of dictatorship is good?

Elites are kept in check.

>He is turning his ppl into slaves.

How?

>I mean,remember 15 July shit,where Sultan Erdogan killed more than 300 civilians in the streets because he wanted so he can gain others’ respect and lie about Gulen.

He killed 300 civilians to gain respect?

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>Erdogan was Gulen’s student,and always goes to USA to see him.

I hear about that for the first time. Tell me more if you want.

>You know 1 dolar is 6,61 liras and 1 euro is 7,65 liras,and Turkey mostly trădes with USA,Uk,France and Germany.Turkey is going to be Greece 2.0

Okay that's bad. What particularly caused it? It wouldn't become like that just by Erdogan being himself.

>Everyone is better than him.

Even people who people disliked so much they voted for Erdogan just to get rid of their rule? It looks you are just very upset and are exaggerating.

>He supports PKK,Isis and those terrorists are trying to destroy Turkey.

Didn't he recall his support?

>They escaped to different countries,both media and internet are under his control.Those oppositions like Selahattin or Ecevit are in jail or dead now,and generals who opposed like Esref Bitlis are killed.

How could the opposition perform better than it was expected in parlamentary elections then?

About Erdogan being student and fez and sharia;

Yes Erdogan was Gulen’s student and there are some photos shows them together.I don’t understand why he is trying to kill him,just for some respect from his brainwashed Turks.

>Fez

Fez is actually cool,especially the green one.

>Sharia

I’m still saying again,there was no sharia in Ottos,some idiot imperialist sharia fanatics in Turkey say “I wish Greeks and others win the Turkish Independence War so we still can have sharia rules in anatolia.” Lol.even pashas were half naked and there were lots of gays in Ottomans.No one really obeyed the sharia.and there are some hidden pics of Ottomans,that shows women and pashas.fez was just a symbolic thing that only generals and pashas use it.I mean,go google some Otto pics,you can easily find those pics.