Thread:Polandball & Mapping Slovenia/@comment-31674709-20180422152013/@comment-31674709-20180422181935

Polandball &amp; Mapping Slovenia wrote: 1. Charities are far less efficient than proper welfare state.

2. Big corporations often exploit people (sweatshops in Asian states) or too much resources (Shell with oil in Nigeria, Nestle stealing water in various states). There's nothing wrong with having money unless you exploit it to do harmful things.

3. Masses do exist (aka 99%), why do you think revolutions happen?

4. Exploitation is real (again, sweatshops are a prime example).

5. Corporate control of the government is exactly what happened in America. That's also one of the main reasons why they have an inefficient welfare program (US 'welfare' is an insult to European welfare) and are the only developed country in the west to not have an universal healthcare (also, world's most developed nation has poverty of 15 PERCENT!). Not to mention they have a suspiciously low tax rate for the rich. Hmmm...

6. What violence? Also, if you believe that we aren't obligated to help poor people, that's fine with me, but I tend to stay far away from people who think that way. 1. Do you have proof? I think voluntary charities are more loving because they are willingly accepting to take care of people instead of a huge beast that get its money from extortion

Since when it's the state's responsibility to take care of people? Maybe if that welfare state didn't exist there would be for more competition for voluntary charities?

2. Maybe because Sweatshops operate in POOR AREAS? And having too much resources is a problem? Durrr. And what are you going to do about it?

3. "Masses" is a lie created to manipulate idiots like you to follow a mad guy's ideal, good.

4. Wrong.

5. Provide "evidence" of such Corporate control, and provide evidence of countries that don't have such.

Also bring me statiscs providing evidence that there is a "low tax rate" for the "rich" (Define "rich")

Also, taxation is theft

And "universal healthcare" is nothing to me. You don't tell that everyone has the right to healthcare, people have different interests and you're not going to force them for public healthcare.

Also, doesn't your map show that not all developed countries have universal healthcare? Hahaha

I don't give a damn, if i don't want insurace, i don't, if i refuse treatment, i will.

Want to help that guy who can't afford to pay for surgery? Get your ass out your chair and start making money to help him you lazy crunk, government won't be always to help your miserable ideals become reality.

Also, their welfare system is innefficient because government programs are failures as always and are UNNECESSARY. How does "corporate control" means ineffeciency? What's "efficiency" all about?

6. The violence of telling people what to do, what to think what to feel, what are their obligations, their morals, their ideals. '''It's tyranny and you support it. '''

They disagree? You punish them, you regulate them, you enforce laws that they don't want.

Also, answer my question, what makes you think you have a right to other people's labour?

Talk 18:19, April 22, 2018 (UTC)