Thread:RedLightningStrike/@comment-34650195-20190109115856/@comment-34650195-20190112155509

>Not all Chinese emperors ruled to benefit the people, if they did there would be no coups, rebellions or dynastical changes

But there were a very few of them. Confucianism specifically emphasized upon loyality and humanism.

>Like Qing was fully illegitimate within the people

Quing wasn't as bad as you tell. They were heavily hanified, they preserved Chinese culture and built a strong multicultural empire.

>The Confucian ideal of democracy by Sun Zhongshan is far from a Freemason Greco-Roman Western European

Democracy implies rule of the people. It's purpose is to serve individual will of persons rather than objective greater good. The only way to keep democracy working wight is by enforcing religious, collectivist, moralistic and sometimes militaristic values to prevent it from naturally decaying. Which is something no democracy will do for a long time because it is in human individualistic nature to wish things to be more "easy" and "pleasant" for himself and therefore all democracies are destined to fall into degeneracy. The only way to combat this is to enforce these things against the people's will, which implies existence of a powerful point outside of people's control. That is why authoritarism adn democracy cannot coexist. Either it is a fake democracy or it is an authoritarian regime that will collapse.

>Freemason Greco-Roman Western European

What Greco-Roman culture has to do with Freemasons. Both Roman and Greeks started democracy as an experiment and then recognized that it as incombinable with their republican culture (Greco-Roman concept of a republic was radically different from what it is now) and replaced them with monarchies. The Freemasons from the Western Europe had ideals that were directly opposed to Greco-Roman Republicanism and therefore they adopted democracy. When they were implementing it upon the Western European society they put a great propagandist emphasis upon its Greco-Roman origins because everything associated with ancient Rome and Greece was seen as superior and particularly civilized, while trying to put away emphasis from that Greco-Roman idology was about something completely different. Fascists and Metaxists tried to actually revive those ideals in some slightly changed, simplified and modernized form but then the Nazis cam and ruined everything.

>It is about extend the heavenly mandate tradition to prevent instability and having a long date social harmony

It can be done without democracy.

>That is responsiveness to the will of the people focusing the Confucian value of social harmony. So either the leader or the party (depending on the case) acts as a centralized authority in the interest of the people, with their legitimacy by this principle

Democracy will damage that system considerably.